Dialogue in Chile

25th May 2007

Interlocutor: Can I ask you to summarise your teaching.

Rubén Feldman González: With great pleasure. Conscious contact with energy is peace, love and freedom, therefore it is the most important thing of human life and the solution to misery and wars. That contact is Unitary Perception.

If you live in the true life of Unitary Perception, all problems will be solved. Test this out for yourself. Unitary Perception is not learned by repeating words, as even a little parrot could do.

The brain has to learn to function in another way. For that reason Unitary Perception is not for those who feel accustomed to, or comfortable with, an imaginary and conflictive life.

Interlocutor: What must I do to teach Unitary Perception?

RFG: Live it. Live in peace, love, freedom, without mixing Unitary Perception with any product of thought.

Interlocutor: Any product of thought…?

RFG: To listen in Unitary Perception is not a product of thought.

If you mix techniques that are products of thought with that listening in Unitary Perception, you stop listening and easily forget about Unitary Perception. Then your destiny is mediocrity and your life and your death will be conflictive and egocentric.

Interlocutor: Unitary Perception is something central.

RFG: It is the most important. Without Unitary Perception life is imaginary and its interests will be interminable gain, prestige, religious, financial and political power and the pursuit of pleasure. That is the imaginary and dishonest life. With that form of life humanity cannot survive as a species.

It moved me to see the French documentary film “The March of the Penguins”, where it is clearly seen that extreme solidarity allowed them to survive in inhospitable environments for 200 million years.

The human being has not lived on this planet for even two million years and is already in danger of disappearing.

If one looks without the word, one looks with innocence. Then everything is always new and there is no boredom.

Interlocutor: Do you believe in God?

RFG: Being constant in Unitary Perception God came to me. He does not abandon me. I no longer need to believe in God. I live in That.

I no longer need to teach faith. I live faith in That, the most sacred, which lives in me consciously.

But I am free of all religious organisations, rites, incense, magnets, crystals, amulets, fetishes, respiratory techniques to take one away from the profundity of the mind, I am free of imaginary and metaphysical pomposities and superstitions.

My religion is to be free of all products of human thought and of every human organisation called “religious”, whether or not they kill one another.

Interlocutor: How did you learn Unitary Perception?

RFG: With my friend JK-2 (Jiddu Krishnamurti), for more than a decade.

JK-2 lived in the most intense enlightenment. He asked that I would teach Unitary Perception, affirming that to say “Unitary Perception” is better than to say “meditation” (the word that he used, and that he renounced, on my request, on the first of September 1985 in London). I also spoke about Unitary Perception for more than a decade with David Bohm, who was not enlightened, but was one of the most brilliant scientists (physicist-mathematician) of human history.

Both, with infinite affection and patience taught me to see everything without prejudice, condemnation, justification nor comparison.

In the 7 schools that Krishnamurti founded, Unitary Perception still is not taught. There are no teachers who live it.

Interlocutor: How many followers do you have at present, Doctor?

RFG: None. There are those who study and understand Unitary Perception and live it. But there are also those who do not want to use their own intelligence.

Interlocutor: Do you have enemies amongst those who do not want to understand?

RFG: None. I like Argentinean “dulce de leche” and “dulce de zapallo”, Indian “rasamalai”, Arabian “baklava”. I am fat.

You see that the greatest enemy that I have is my own self. In that I am not different from anybody. Honesty and intelligent excellence frees us of that internal enemy. But the most important thing is what comes out of the mouth and not what goes into it.

Our internal enemy is what invents enemies. If I do not invent enemies, nobody can sell me a weapon.

Interlocuror: Does Unitary Perception end the misery?

RFG: It ended mine. You could move to a rich country and live more comfortably. In that way you get caught in the violence of imitating the rich.

But without living and teaching unitary Perception you will continue in the internal misery: the imaginary life that is the waking nightmare of guilt, fear, anger and sadness repeated daily.

Interlocutor: You refer to non-violence, as did Ghandi, and that made you a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize.

RFG: No sir, please. Mahatma Ghandi bottled-up violence and called it “non-violence”. In that way violence does not end.

Internal peace (which is world peace) only comes (it is not achieved) when one’s own violence is observed in Unitary Perception.

He who lives in Unitary Perception (in true peace) is a good man. In him there exists no bad, although he might be fat and sick and like beautiful women.

He who lives in Unitary Perception does not suffer nor cause to suffer. He is good. But he does not say, “I am good”.

What is good for me will not do bad to anybody. I am not indifferent to anybody. I do not cause anybody to suffer. I teach Unitary Perception so that they do not suffer more.

Interlocutor: There is a young person whom I know who sells drugs and weapons. What advice would you give him?

RFG: None. He has to learn to live in Unitary Perception without mixing it with anything. He has to stop that selling immediately, not gradually.

Let me tell you something in relation to this. A lady recently asked for an individual consultation with me. She had read some book of mine, and that is something exceptional. But she told me that her employer is a thief, is dishonest and fraudulent. She said that she was not. She denied having any problems despite having many. In her presence I entered into the profundity of the immeasurable mind to cure her in a pristine and complete way. Offended, she told me that I had fallen asleep.

This means that if one does not take care of how one earns one’s living, one will not be cured even reading my Work. Many people have been cured by just reading my books, which were written in Unitary Perception. But the good is not understood nor received whilst living in the bad.

They have just made a very professional audio CD: “Dialogue in Temuco”, that lasts three hours and thirteen minutes, where it shows that some participants of the workshop had not understood anything (without saying it).

Obviously, a single workshop is not sufficient to learn Unitary Perception well. But there was no control of attendance there and some did not participate for the 12 hours. It is necessary to read repeatedly everything that I have written. There are free books on the website: www.percepcionunitaria.org

Interlocutor: Do you know, as Jiddu Krishnamurti knew, how long you are going to live?

RFG: Life in Unitary Perception is without expectations. I neither want to live for a long time nor a short time. I want to live and die in Unitary Perception, in that peace, in that compassion and in that total freedom.

I travel a lot and that is not good for one’s health nor for married life. I do not travel as a tourist, I do it to teach the most important thing: Unitary Perception. I will do it until death, even if I lose my health, with so many long trips all over the planet.

Interlocutor: Are there historical antecedents of Unitary Perception?

RFG: If there had been any, there would not be 5 thousand Christianities that betray JesusKristos (JK-1). Nor 500 Buddhisms that betray Buddha, nor 50 Islams, nor masters of Yoga who don’t know Yoga, nor 23 psychologies that trivialise psychology, nor more than 180 nations fighting amongst themselves, nor paid agents to divide human beings even more one from the other, to sell them arms, drugs and children as sexual slaves.

Esperanto would already be the second language of each human being. It can be learned in 50 hours. If there had been Unitary Perception during written history, humanity would be incorrupt, united in peace and less sick.

Interlocutor: What is the meaning of life?

RFG: If you want to discover it, as I did, you have to live in Unitary Perception constantly. The meaning of life is not money. It is discovered in the peace, the compassion in solidarity, and the freedom of Unitary Perception. But if you want money, you will have money.

By being a divine creature, you deserve what you desire. I do not want anything from life. That makes me free. For that reason I love my friends, who give me more than I ask for.

Use your intelligence. Learn to live in Unitary Perception.

Ruben Feldman Gonzalez
rufegon@percepcionunitaria.org